Speculative? Their first child, Christie Ann, was born in 1974. (Yes in the 1980s a ten yr like myself was not as mature as say todays 10 yr olds. Are you still taking comments by email? As for Diane, give me a break. Maybe someone needs to read Part two in Dr. Billings in-depth review of the Diane Downs Murder Case in Oregon. Yes, I had filed for divorce and then I canceled it. The courts were divided in the 80s, family court, traffic court, criminal court, juvenile court I dont believe they ran out of judges to preside over them all. It is said that their union was loveless and that Steve was a player who was also quite irresponsible and immature from time to time. The State had the same gut feeling and made sure she would pay. I like your approach. Yes, but it is a fact that she was starting to say that she did not know who shot them when it happened. Everywhere, EXCEPT the door through which Diane reported to police, the male stranger had passed. Page 37 of Case History. On May 19, 1983, Elizabeth Diane pulled over her car by the side of the road in Springfield, Oregon and shot her children multiple times with a 22-calibre pistol. Her parents Willadene and Wes were old school Baptist parents who raised her under strict guidelines without much warmth but complete devotion. Offers may be subject to change without notice. Lack of blood spatter is not evidence of innocence Especially when a shooter is leaning in and shooting into a box (car) while standing outside. At what point during these meetings did she start calling him Dad? Nothing in this blog claims Diane is innocent. So obviously, she was the prime suspect. I do not have to put any statement advising people that I am about to present the neglected aspects of the trial. This seems very punitive to have a law like this be retroactive. At Sophie Sergie murder trial, jury hears recordings of Steven Downs I do not have to state anything at the beginning of the blog. It is not a run of the mill case. Here's what we know. After Diane got divorced from her husband in 1980, she had taken up a job at the U.S. postal service office, and that's where she first met him. I was curious as to what these requirements were, as I have not seen these online. why didn't steve downs get custody - Kerryandjessica.com The crucial point is that she is so void of emotion. Diane nowhad the title ofdangerous offender. They made her out to be a monster, but in Beckys case, it becomes redeemable. She was the prosecutions only hope. Mrs. Fredericksons concern for her daughters emotional state was well placed. She was in solitary confinement for years and even escaped from prison once but was recaptured. There is a court sketch artists rendering of him in this video. please express them and I will print them. If a person were innocent of the crime they were convicted of this puts them in a no-win situation. Hed left his first wife to co-habitate with (and later marry) Charlene. The woman shot her children. Diane had consulted a psychologist after the tragedy and after months of consultation, she was never diagnosed as a sociopath. U seem very one sided on every case Ann Rule has ever written just as u claim she did to u. N her parents didnt want custody of the children just like the father. She keeps her emotions under tight control, presenting only socially acceptable feelings and burying other contradictory feelings.. Once you are vilified in the media in the US, the way Downs and others have been, a lot of people shut their eyes and their mind to any other possibility than what was presented in the court of public opinion. The parole board in Oregon was asking to provide reasonable cause to show she was not a danger to society and it had to be supported by a psychiatrists report or a Wardens letter and Downs provided both. She was also shot twice andifshe had been sitting up, the seats would have been covered with blood spatter as well as the shooter. Im not saying I know for a fact in my mind shes innocentbut there is NOT enough evidence for her to be guilty. I wish she could get a new look. In fact, I am surprised that people are not flabbergasted by the way this case was handled and tried and that what bothers them most is that I try to discuss it in a blog and dare defending this woman. The fact that they used her daughter and lied about the gun they could never find makes it a wrongful conviction. Washing soda is your best bet: It includes, among its ingredients, the exceedingly corrosive carbolic acid. Despite all of this: that the attorney became a Foster Carer irrelevant, inflammatory, subjective and bears no reflection on the trial, or indeed the trial outcome. It turned out to be a mistake because he was married to a County Circuit Court Judge who would become a colleague of Foote and he had no intention of defending Diane vigorously. Because she was failing quite miserably at remaining pure and chaste, she was expelled after only a year, and thus, she returned to her parents home in Arizona. It is said that they didn't go to Steve because he wasn't a fit father or well equipped to take care of children who had gone through such a traumatic experience. I am so tired of the victims being forgotten. I understand that the authorities were afraid to leave the two remaining children under her care if they thought she was guilty, but they could have been released to the grandparents or other blood relatives with supervised visits from their mom considering that she was not charged with any crime. Yes, like many Americans, I think that the US system is barbaric. I agree with your comment. And to say that her mental health has degraded is an understatement, but more reason not to keep her eternally incarcerated. Not meaning to sound disrespectful, but you seem to be doing what you accuse Ann Rule of doing. As far as her innocence goes and the possibility of being paroled if she admitted her crime, Diane strongly maintains her innocence. More reason to have investigated the case more thoroughly. It is my hope that Leslie Van Houten and Diane Downs are never paroled. How asinine. The gun is Def a big issue, the style of gun, whether it belonged to him or her, she Def had access to itthe child drew a picture of it, having large similarity to that gunbut it did always baffle me how she could find such a great hide for it in such a short period of time. Danny was the product of an affair. Libby, I quoted what Diane said. Thanks again. It could be argued that he developed a relationship with the children and genuinely wanted them to join his family. Everything I outlined should be public knowledge. Phenobarbital was administered alongside the Dilantin. It was positive only on a small portion of her upper hand where she said the gun touched her when she wrestled with the attacker (a detail she had mentioned before they did the test). Bear in mind, that arm consisted of two SHARP bones, cutting at nerves and muscle (1 of bone had been blown out of the arm when the bullet shattered it, leaving three jagged holes in the flesh, out of which bulged torn muscle, and two wedge shaped bones facing each other like dueling swords). Why arent you debating the faulty ballistics, and the fact that the gun they affirmed was used in the commission of the crime was not the right one? Yet that didnt stop Knick from asking Mr. Frederickson for a job and for Dianes hand in marriage (Appendix 81, page Case History Page 25). Therefore, those jagged bones were floating in a cloth wrap, merely resting in a cloth sling. Imagine knowing that your adoptive dad was responsible for putting your natural mom in the slammer? I agree about pregnancy and childbirth affecting women differently, and even having different effects for the same woman with different pregnancies. This blog is riddled with inconsistencies, suppositions and a lack of the most basic referencing (e.g. Jul 3, 2022; fotomontajes de amor para dos personas; Comments: pete walker complex ptsd website; And according to the law, she should have been released by now, independently of what she says or not. It should have been investigated further. On a side note, what do you think of parole of Leslie Van Houton? Ive done my research. This is especially if it comes with a history of erratic behavior following the use of these substances. 4. I do not discuss her guilt or innocence because this is not what the blog is about, but I personally hope she is released one day. . It seems they all went the easy way. Fitness fanatic, 27, broke her spine lifting weights but didn't realise until she woke up the next morning unable to move - and why her terrifying injury should be a warning to all gym-goers She may be highly vulnerable to losing control of her emotions in emotionally charged situations, creating faulty judgment and ineffective and inappropriate behavior. Her ex-husband has been of great interest, considering his absence from the media despite the case getting significant attention. Distractify is a registered trademark. Yes, I usually answer the emails I get about the blogs. They are now leading their private lives as adults. Wasnt he the stranger? On May 30, 1983, the McKenzie-Willamette Hospital Chaplain told Dianes father to hire an attorney because the State was going to take his grandchildren away. Whats next? The guy should have walked away from the case or from adopting them. So should I put an addendum saying that Diane contradicted herself or was not satisfied with the sketch? Tracy, I never said she was in the car. Not exclusively a USA trait, this happens also in many countries, but in a technologically advanced superpower like USA this attitude is more shocking, and maybe also more worldwide spread. She could not have been shot twice in the back while sitting up and have the bullet pierce her body to end up under the floorboard of the passenger side. CK was willing to take, or attempt to take, the lives of 4 people in order to steal their car. Moreover, he apparently told her that he did not want children and this statement alone would seal Dianes fate. Diane Downs is an infamous killer who tried to murder her three children to pursue love. She learnedat a young age to keep her emotions in check and to always present a strong and brave front. Completely unethical, and not in the best interest of those children. I am glad you read it anyway and I appreciate your comment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPLkIcSzftE&ab_channel=DianeDownsArchives. When Diane had failed to mention it herself, he even informed them that she had bought a .22 caliber shotgun in Arizona, just before she had left for Oregon. The powers that be knew they had nothing on Diane so Christie became their sacrificial lamb. What about the affidavits of the guy who confessed to several people? If the adult can show capacity and willingness to provide care, love and nurturing to the children, then there is no legal reason to prevent them from becoming Foster Carers. In 1983, Diane Downs said a stranger shot her 3 kids, but police The strong, emotive language. Their life without parole sentences are a dime a dozen and so randomly used that it beats any notion of justice for all. My question is: why is she still locked up? So she warns her to stay away. (I know that wasnt brought up this time but it usually is.) A. I believe Charlene and I had a big blowout around Thanksgiving and I left, called Diane. Great question. There have many times children have had to testify against their parents so the fact that many cant believe it was ever allowed should honestly research more. I actually do not know what really happened. And it is not like these two were white as snow. If I was of a mind to manipulate the Board by giving voice to the words they want me to utter, Id have sold my soul two decades ago when the lies would have benefited me and my youth passed long ago. I had visited Dr. Billings site several times and it is too bad that it was removed. As we have reported in great detail in the past, Diane Downs could not possibly have committed the crime of shooting her children, or there would have been evidence of gunpowder residue and blood. Diane Downs' ex husband, Steve Downs, lost a lot in May 1983 when his ex wife shot their three children, following their divorce in 1980. As you said, the system has to work for everyone and you cant change the rules because a case is high profile without muddying the waters. Considering the lack of evidence, it seems that she was condemned mostly because of herinappropriatestatements and behavior. Im from Australia and have recollections of this case. Gosh Donna, you really dont have a clue. The pilots we did dealt with Japan going over the quotas of hunted whales and a company dumping toxic waste into the ocean But it didn't work out because the stock footage they were using. The prosecutor and his wife adopted both children that survived and although the boy is paralyzed and in a wheelchair, they trived with their new parents. In fact, Diane had consulted a psychologist after the tragedy and after months of consultation, she was never diagnosed as a sociopath.
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